El Planeta: Interview with Director Amalia Ulman

The director, author, producer, and star of the Sundance 2021 hit tells IndieWire about her debut characteristic, the droll story of mother-daughter con artists starring Ulman’s personal mother.

El Planeta” is a swish willow of a film. The distributor is tiny; it was made on a whisper of a funds, with a crew of 5, in black-and-white. It’s additionally the sort of film that makes you wish to discuss quick, so folks can learn the way nice it’s earlier than their consideration spans are flattened by the tsunami of awards-season advertising.

The debut characteristic of Argentine-born Spanish artist-turned-filmmaker Amalia Ulman, Sundance 2021 premiere “El Planeta” is all her: She’s the director, author, producer, and star, considered one of solely three named characters within the movie. (One is her personal mom, Ale Ulman, making her appearing debut.) Inside the sleepy coastal metropolis of Gijón, contained in the autonomous area of Spain generally known as Asturias, they painting mother-daughter grifters María and Leonor, who execute disastrous romantic and monetary schemes within the guise of wealthy folks. “The place would you like me to work, McDonald’s?” Amalia moans because the hopelessly unambitious Leo. Within the movie’s opening scene, Leo’s determined hope for fast money is thru arranging a “golden bathe” state of affairs with a sugar-daddy hopeful (performed by filmmaker and comic Nacho Vigalondo). That falls by means of.

Ulman mentioned the movie attracts from her household’s personal monetary stress in a post-crisis Spain, but in addition from the true story of Justina and Ana Belén, penniless mother-daughter con artists who ran up tabs within the hundreds that they promised to settle at native companies however, in fact, by no means might.

“In 2017 or 2018, my mother despatched me an image of them and she or he was like, ‘Haha, I noticed them on the street!’” Ulman mentioned over a Zoom interview. “I regarded up their story and thought it was humorous not due to what they had been doing — they had been simply saying they had been wealthy — however extra of the way it represented town, that bizarre hierarchy of individuals. As immigrants, we have now by no means been allowed to [get away with that] ourselves. These girls obtained away with that as a result of they’re Spanish.”

Ulman mentioned the tabloid sensation of the Beléns struck a chord along with her personal expertise as an immigrant from Buenos Aires. “In Spain, there are lots of people who would possibly look or be poor however they’re truly royalty from some bizarre village,” she mentioned. “That’s a world I’ve at all times been excluded from. Most immigrants in Spain need to stay off their financial savings and work onerous.”

Now 32 and dwelling in Brooklyn, Ulman makes bracing efficiency and video artwork that challenges notions of sophistication and gender and infrequently includes Ulman inhabiting a twisted model of a recognizable modern-day persona. (Her website shows an enormous quantity of labor.) That scrappy, DIY sensibility was integral to the making of “El Planeta.”


Taking pictures “El Planeta”

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“It was not the thought initially [to cast my mother],” Ulman mentioned. “The issue was funds. My mother, as you’ll be able to see within the movie, could be very photogenic. She’s a type of pure actors. She’s at all times camera-ready. We did some exams, and she or he was nice at it. So I mentioned, ‘OK, we’ll do it collectively.’ As a result of nobody else is gonna care concerning the movie as a lot as we are going to, and for such little pay.”

Ulman raised the cash herself through art-world connections. When she pitched “El Planeta” to would-be buyers in Spain, she met resistance for not being sufficiently Spanish — though she solely obtained an Argentinian passport this 12 months.

“That was the large downside in getting funding as a result of the story was accomplished from a unique vantage level, and other people weren’t joyful about that,” she mentioned. “My sort of class dialogue will not be welcome… it’s nonetheless very macho and old-school, and they’d assume that fiction is bourgeois and that solely documentary is political. Lots of people advised me, ‘Why don’t you make it as a documentary?’ I didn’t fall into that class, and I additionally didn’t fall into the large mainstream footage they do shoot in Asturias, like massive romantic comedies. They didn’t suppose my portrayal of town was real looking sufficient.”

Ulman’s imaginative and prescient of Gijón is emptied of its vacationer clamor. Though the movie was shot in 2019, it appears to be like as if it might have been shot throughout the pandemic. The streets have a lonely limbo vibe, a layover for the existentially caught.

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“El Planeta”


“The politicians there have a really North Korean mindset,” Ulman mentioned. “The whole lot needs to be very pretty-looking for it to be good or welcoming. For me, I used to be being truthful to what it’s to develop up there. However nonetheless, actually loving my metropolis a lot [is why] I went to shoot a movie there.”

The film ends with precise red-carpet footage outdoors the Princess of Asturias gala, the place Martin Scorsese acquired a prize for his contributions to the humanities in 2018. The vacationers and locals waving in entrance of the digicam didn’t mirror the eye acquired by the “El Planeta” manufacturing, however even the movie’s small crew drew curiosity from a inhabitants of lower than 300,000.

“Institutionally-wise, we didn’t get any assist, however folks had been extraordinarily pleasant concerning the shoot,” she mentioned. “It was a really enjoyable factor to do, as a result of quite a lot of previous buddies, high-school buddies, ex-boyfriends, my mother’s ex-boyfriend had been concerned within the film.”

Ulman additionally wove in her personal backstory: In 2013, whereas touring from New York Metropolis to Chicago through Greyhound, the bus collided with a tractor-trailer. She was injured and now has a slight limp, which she determined to deliver into the movie.

“There aren’t disabilities of that sort [in film] that aren’t being in a wheelchair or one thing, however one thing that impacts your day-to-day and makes it a bit shittier,” she mentioned. “I’ve by no means included my incapacity in my work earlier than. So I believed, ‘Why not?’”

Ulman and her mom additionally misplaced their residence after the 2009 international monetary disaster, so “El Planeta” emerges virtually as a cathartic, fantastical recreation of real-life occasions.

“I believed that might give us company to make a comedy and never do it from a spot of guilt,” she mentioned. “It was stunning that from one thing that was simply dangerous generally, my mother and I had been capable of create one thing new out of it. It was artistic as a substitute of dwelling on that loss.”

Launched by Utopia Distribution, “El Planeta” is now enjoying at IFC Heart in New York earlier than increasing to Los Angeles October 1.

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